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    Have any of ya'll researched flat Earth?

    What have you learned?

    Much love,
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    Hello brother Caleb! The Bible does not comment on the shape of Planet Earth. It does not say that the earth is flat, and it does not say that it is spherical. If the earth is flat does this mean NASA has lied to us? Personally I don't think this is the case, however it is plausible. With the way everything is going in the world what's next to be revealed?
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    I hear you Light. Thanks for sharing your thoughts brother.

    The more I've been digging into it, I believe the Bible does teach a stationary (not spinning or orbiting), plane (not globe) earth Cosmology. It's been edifying digging into the Word with an open mind, and challenging what I was taught about Cosmology my whole life til now.

    Yes, if the Bible teaches something different than what NASA says, that does present a problem. Both can't be true.

    Since I believe truth matters, I must say, the topic has piqued my research interest.

    You know the saying "let God be true, though every one were a liar". Romans 3:4

    I've heard it said it's much easier to get people to believe a lie, than to get people to realize they have been lied to.

    That's why I'm focused on the Bible (and what I can observe of our reality with my God-given senses), because if God is pleased to reveal truth on a matter, that's enough for me. The truth will stand, as it always has, over the long haul!

    Just the fact we are even having this discussion in 2017 is amazing to me. Who would have thought?!?

    Peace!

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    I hear you Light. Thanks for sharing your thoughts brother.

    The more I've been digging into it, I believe the Bible does teach a stationary (not spinning or orbiting), plane (not globe) earth Cosmology. It's been edifying digging into the Word with an open mind, and challenging what I was taught about Cosmology my whole life til now.

    Yes, if the Bible teaches something different than what NASA says, that does present a problem. Both can't be true.

    Since I believe truth matters, I must say, the topic has piqued my research interest.

    You know the saying "let God be true, though every one were a liar". Romans 3:4

    I've heard it said it's much easier to get people to believe a lie, than to get people to realize they have been lied to.

    That's why I'm focused on the Bible (and what I can observe of our reality with my God-given senses), because if God is pleased to reveal truth on a matter, that's enough for me. The truth will stand, as it always has, over the long haul!

    Just the fact we are even having this discussion in 2017 is amazing to me. Who would have thought?!?

    Peace!
    Hmm, here's an example of using a certain type of language to describe: Revelation 7:1 says, “I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth.” In writing this, the apostle John was using idiomatic language—the “four corners of the earth” refer to “every distant location.” We use the same idiom today; for example, when we speak of Olympic athletes coming from the four corners of the earth to compete in the games, we mean they are coming from all over the world.

    I just don't believe the Bible teaches that the earth is flat, neither does the Bible explicitly teach that the earth is spherical. Some passages do allow for a spherical earth, such as Job 26:7 and Isaiah 40:22. In any event, the Bible is far from affirming a naive or unscientific understanding of the earth and the solar system. There is simply no basis for the charge that the Bible teaches a flat earth. Passages that seem to present a flat earth can all be explained when correctly understood. With that being said again, I do not have all the wisdom and knowledge of the universe so maybe I could stand corrected?
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    Hahah! Thanks for dropping in Faylor! How much of that marathon did you watch? Any thoughts on the matter?

    And Light, you mentioned Isaiah 40:22. Love that verse! In Hebrew, the word "circle" also means "disc", not ball or sphere. Surely Isaiah knew the difference, because he used the word "ball" earlier in Isaiah 22:18. Peep it bruh.

    But man, I'm doing my best to stick with personal observation and God-given senses more and more. There is SO MUCH deception going on in the world.

    Speaking of observation, you know, when I took a flight recently, I enjoyed watching the horizon rise to eye level the whole way up to 30,000 + ft. No curve observed! So beautiful!

    I also have noticed the MANY passages in the Bible that says the earth is immovable, and yet it clearly states the sun moves (rising and setting). What's up with that? More Biblical evidence that the heliocentric, spinning Earth model is the creation of man, not God.

    But each person has to do their own research. Truth fears no investigation.

    www.testingtheglobe.com

    I respect the amount of research the brother at that site has done.

    Love ya'll!

    caleb

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