1000 Lecrae Post

**shekinahsmoke** · 09-04-2013, 02:42 PM

after looking at the code, all signs point to the video editors ... the code shows that the web designer named things based around the video and sound names... at least the web designer changed the titles etc...

**Ras** · 09-11-2013, 11:57 AM

Supernatural freestyles about the Wu-Tang line up at Rock the Bells. I guess he didn't get the memo that he's not a Christian rapper

If you just wanna hear the Lecrae part, go to the 4:30 mark (he's a secular rapper so you know the language)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWHoPNXSoi0

**jeyjey34** · 09-11-2013, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by Ras

Lecrae via twitter. I'm sure he will get some response.....

"I'm not a pastor/preacher. I just know what I believe and try to live it. I'm an artist. My art is expression not sermons."

...

**The_Expositor** · 09-11-2013, 03:16 PM

Art expresses ideas, though.

Reach Records says this on their site:

"Art functions as the billboard of culture. New ideas and values move through art and work their way into the fabric of the people. Major movements all had a soundtrack formed around them, and in some cases the music sparked the movement."

What ideas and values do we want to promote in our art? To say art is just art is false.

Now, we can debate whether or not it is true, but I remember shai linne once saying in a song, "Every rapper's a preacher. What's your sermon about?"

**shekinahsmoke** · 09-11-2013, 03:20 PM

And that, my dear watson, is what shai linne and lecrae have to discuss. two opposite views on rap.

**Apex** · 09-11-2013, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by The_Expositor

Now, we can debate whether or not it is true, but I remember shai linne once saying in a song, "Every rapper's a preacher. What's your sermon about?"

It isn't.

**The_Expositor** · 09-11-2013, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by Apex

It isn't.

Feel free to explain a bit more as to why it isn't true. Fundamentally, a preacher puts forth a message he wants to convey to his listeners. A rapper does the same. What differs is the type of message. But both convey something. shai didn't say that every rapper's a PASTOR. He said every rapper is a preacher.

**jeyjey34** · 09-11-2013, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by Apex

It isn't.

Shai Linne used the term "preacher" as "someone who conveys a message". Thus, a rapper is a "preacher" in a sense. So the question is, what is Lecrae's sermon about?

**lyriqnawqiy** · 09-11-2013, 10:26 PM

http://www.rapzilla.com/rz/news/38-b...rock-the-bells

**Ras** · 09-11-2013, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by lyriqnawqiy

http://www.rapzilla.com/rz/news/38-b...rock-the-bells

THose Boi-1da beats was weak on the last one. Hopefully, he'll have better beat selection. Interesting he got Paul Wall since he's a "former" Christian rapper. Lecrae bet not bring that lazy flow or I guarantee you Paul will outrap him.

**Apex** · 09-11-2013, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by The_Expositor

Feel free to explain a bit more as to why it isn't true. Fundamentally, a preacher puts forth a message he wants to convey to his listeners. A rapper does the same. What differs is the type of message. But both convey something. shai didn't say that every rapper's a PASTOR. He said every rapper is a preacher.

Shai Linne didn't say the word "pastor" but the two are interchangeable. They're both affiliated with religion. However if he wants to define a preacher as someone who's conveying a message then that could be everyone, whether you're a rapper, painter, stay at home mom, teacher. Anyone can convey a message to people so that definition is really broad.

At the end of the day it's Shai's song so he can define the word how he wants, but that doesn't mean it will define others.

**Ras** · 09-12-2013, 09:32 AM

http://yadamag.com/syrian-bloodshed-....w76fuxRa.dpuf

Syrian bloodshed CHH way opinion article (about Crae)

**The_Expositor** · 09-12-2013, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by Apex

Shai Linne didn't say the word "pastor" but the two are interchangeable. They're both affiliated with religion. However if he wants to define a preacher as someone who's conveying a message then that could be everyone, whether you're a rapper, painter, stay at home mom, teacher. Anyone can convey a message to people so that definition is really broad.

At the end of the day it's Shai's song so he can define the word how he wants, but that doesn't mean it will define others.

Pastor and preacher can be interchangeable, but they are not always. For instance, you have evangelists who go around preaching at different churches who may qualify to be called itinerant ministers but are not pastors. Those who go out and preach in the streets are preachers, yet most of them are not pastors. So, with all due respect, that explanation is not accurate.

Concerning painters, stay at home mom's, etc., it is only a valid comparison if their work directly involves them conveying a message. I can see a painter, if you mean an artist who conveys messages through his art, but then, he's not actually saying any words. So, technically, he isn't preaching at all. A stay at home mom mostly has influence over her children, so she could definitely be preaching to her kids, but it isn't the same thing as picking up a microphone and conveying a message to the masses.

But, let's not argue over what could be deemed semantics.

**Apex** · 09-12-2013, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by The_Expositor

Pastor and preacher can be interchangeable, but they are not always. For instance, you have evangelists who go around preaching at different churches who may qualify to be called itinerant ministers but are not pastors. Those who go out and preach in the streets are preachers, yet most of them are not pastors. So, with all due respect, that explanation is not accurate.

Concerning painters, stay at home mom's, etc., it is only a valid comparison if their work directly involves them conveying a message. I can see a painter, if you mean an artist who conveys messages through his art, but then, he's not actually saying any words. So, technically, he isn't preaching at all. A stay at home mom mostly has influence over her children, so she could definitely be preaching to her kids, but it isn't the same thing as picking up a microphone and conveying a message to the masses.

But, let's not argue over what could be deemed semantics.

Me going out into the street and telling people it's about to rain is not preaching. It is sharing a message, but there's a clear difference between the two. Are you changing your definition of preaching to exclude messages being conveyed non-verbally now?

A painter is excluded from directly conveying messages because it is done non-verbally?

A stay at home mom is excluded because she isn't picking up a microphone, are you serious?

Anyways there's my reason for why I disagree, because by that broad definition everyone would be considered a preacher. Well everyone except for artists and mothers apparently.. however that works.

**Apex** · 09-12-2013, 04:19 PM

bet cypher or this one, which one better?

**faylor** · 09-12-2013, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by Apex

bet cypher or this one, which one better?

Thought this was a little better.

Also, TIL (Today I learned for all you non-redditors) Kel (from Keenan and Kel... the dude with the Jesus hat on) is a "devout Christian".

**Apex** · 09-12-2013, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by faylor

Thought this was a little better.

Also, TIL (Today I learned for all you non-redditors) Kel (from Keenan and Kel... the dude with the Jesus hat on) is a "devout Christian".

He also did some music video directing for flame/vrose i believe

**Mr.Gray** · 09-12-2013, 06:15 PM

Yea I like this one better. That beat is nice.

**lyriqnawqiy** · 09-12-2013, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by Apex

He also did some music video directing for flame/vrose i believe

Originally Posted by faylor

Thought this was a little better.

Also, TIL (Today I learned for all you non-redditors) Kel (from Keenan and Kel... the dude with the Jesus hat on) is a "devout Christian".