Johnathan Edwards in light of Roots and possible Double Standards

[DJ Links]

Your picture is flawed b/c it's full of self righteousness and prejudice. I Love Piper, don't get me wrong, but he's not God nor does his opinions finalized what is true. JE was just a man of his times consumed in it's ideology, but he shouldn't be condemned for it. The double standard is clearly U. You never went through slavery and you pick the bits and pieces of slavery you want to deal with. If you would give a broader spectrum of who was involved in the slave trade, who started it, and etc perhaps you'd be painting an unbias picture. But since your focus is on one guy you are as bias as the KKK. Hands down...

Hail King Jesus,
seal

Seal. Please listen to that message. It is from a reformed brother speaking from that perspective on Edwards. Just listen to it.

[seal]

no.your point?is it possible for me to continually sin in an area in my life with no conviction and goto heaven?

Hmmm.... First of all you don't know if he had conviction or not, that's something inward. Also if you are God's Elect you are doing just that sinning daily, so don't ask me a question as if you are living perfect lil homie.... Puh-Please....

[seal]

Seal. Please listen to that message. It is from a reformed brother speaking from that perspective on Edwards. Just listen to it.

Answer my questions COOKIE!!!

[DJ Links]

Answer my questions COOKIE!!!

First of all respect me even if you don't like me. (yeah I was wrong for using Cookie and I apologize).

I'll answer your by you listening to that message. All of your questions are answered in that message.

[seal]

ahahah... SEAL. I'll gracefully bow out. YOUR RIGHT! About EVERYTHING...LOL.

I'll overlook you purposely sidestepped what Devin and I said.

Guys like Edwards preached a good message on Sundays, and then ENSLAVED possibly your ancestors, my wife's ancestors...and never blinked an eye, or shed a tear.... and then went and sat down at his dinner table and ate the produce his "animals" sweated, and bleed over. "But BLESS GOD he's a believer (got that from Paul Washer's sermon...LOL)".

LOL. This convo has really went down south when Christian brothers only see what they want to see based on some good ole sermons. Geez.

I'm outti.

Devin, I highly suggest you opt out in this one too. Because obviously reason, common sense have flown out the window.

Not just good sermons, Great sermons .... Christians brothers have always disagreed especially when it comes to Edwards. All I ask is that we take in the Truth and Spit out the bones. Edwards was a Heretic when it comes to the Curse of Ham, but he was a saint when it came to Theology. All of God's Elect came with flaws yet God knew this before the foundation of the world. Unfortunately, saints today don't see their flaws as being that bad but I recall a scripture... Breaking one, means you break them all....hmmm....Have a good day Vic my Puerto Rican COOKIE....

[Devin]

Hmmm.... First of all you don't know if he had conviction or not, that's something inward. Also if you are God's Elect you are doing just that sinning daily, so don't ask me a question as if you are living perfect lil homie.... Puh-Please....

chill seal.i said sin WITHOUT conviction.meaning you just sin sin sin sin and dont repent.like u comit adultry all day.do u think if u comit adultry all day without repenting and turning to the Lord EVEN IF u know your bible that you will honestly inherit the kingdom of God?i think not brother.


1.im not a JE BASHER.
2.if dude can preach then GOOD.im glad
3.i beliver the man was wrong for slaver.do you?

if u do then fine.im done with the issue.but if u believe he wasnt then this is why this issue will never die out.

[seal]

First of all respect me even if you don't like me. (yeah I was wrong for using Cookie and I apologize).

I'll answer your by you listening to that message. All of your questions are answered in that message.

Stop waiting on Piper to answer the questions I posed to you.... Don't assume I don't like you b/c..... Well maybe you can assume that, but as a brother in Christ I have to Love you and try to keep peace as much be within me....

Can you answer the questions. Vic jumped off this boat and Eternal is the only person to even try and give an answer. Peter says to give an answer for your Faith. What say ye????

Hail King Jesus,
seal

[seal]

chill seal.i said sin WITHOUT conviction.meaning you just sin sin sin sin and dont repent.like u comit adultry all day.do u think if u comit adultry all day without repenting and turning to the Lord EVEN IF u know your bible that you will honestly inherit the kingdom of God?i think not brother.


1.im not a JE BASHER.
2.if dude can preach then GOOD.im glad
3.i beliver the man was wrong for slaver.do you?

if u do then fine.im done with the issue.but if u believe he wasnt then this is why this issue will never die out.

Once again none of us know if he felt conviction or not. However we do know that his son learned from him and was an Abolitionist. Tis is true...


You better get to know your Bible lil homie.... God didn't have men and women die to get these scripts to you just so you can blow it off .... Reading... it's fundamental

[Devin]

Once again none of us know if he felt conviction or not. However we do know that his son learned from him and was an Abolitionist. Tis is true...


You better get to know your Bible lil homie.... God didn't have men and women die to get these scripts to you just so you can blow it off .... Reading... it's fundamental

excuse me but how are you assuming that im not reading the Bible?

and you are correct.i do NOT know if JE was convicted.but i cant assumed he was conflicted.i dont know how dude got down when it came to slave owning.

[seal]

this was never the issue, you'd like to make it that so you can have an arguement..but its neve been about that.

Its about someone who made up his mind, and carried out the horrific act of ENSLAVING people against their will in order to benefit financially. Period. He owned, and supported slavery till his death. There is no record of him every changing his mind, or acknowledging how horrific slavery REALLY was! If your arguement is based of the possibility that he could have said a quick prayer before he croaked, then you really have nothing (in terms of your arguement, or even sounding remotely legit). Stop making the issue about what YOU want it to be about. Its about a consisten lifestyle contrary to Gods Word. I guess you would call that "a carnal Christianity"..LOL.

So I guess Samson and Solomon and Lot went to Hell as well b/c we don't see or have evidence that they repented. Is this what you are saying TERD COOKIE??? I'm sure Solomon benefitted a lot from his hundreds of wives and concubines, wouldn't you say . But do you dare call Solomon a Carnal Saint??? Puh-Please jive turkey.... Why don't you get off the ship before it sails and we get in deep water, you know you can't swim....

[DJ Links]

Stop waiting on Piper to answer the questions I posed to you.... Don't assume I don't like you b/c..... Well maybe you can assume that, but as a brother in Christ I have to Love you and try to keep peace as much be within me....

Can you answer the questions. Vic jumped off this boat and Eternal is the only person to even try and give an answer. Peter says to give an answer for your Faith. What say ye????

Hail King Jesus,
seal

Since you aren't hearing me


WHEN

YOU

SEE

WHAT

THE

message says then your questions that you are asking me would have been answered. I am going to let the sermon speak for me.

I'm done.

[seal]

Yo,

I'm going to leave this subject alone due to some p.m.'s I've received. However, let it be known and teach ya childlin, don't mess with Johnathan Edwards b/c that's my boi!!!


PROTESTANTS 4 LIFE!!!

[KFB]

well, at least we know the real reason you were defending him so much. (him being "ya boy" n' all). I'm wondering if thats what he referred to his male slaves as? "hey BOI come hurr, do this do that... what? CRACk!..... take that boi!... CRACK!... hurry up and pick my cotton so I can have your mom sew me a nice white shirt to preach in".

Real talk. But thats prolly what happened.


heyooooooo!

lol

[seal]

well, at least we know the real reason you were defending him so much. (him being "ya boy" n' all). I'm wondering if thats what he referred to his male slaves as? "hey BOI come hurr, do this do that... what? CRACk!..... take that boi!... CRACK!... hurry up and pick my cotton so I can have your mom sew me a nice white shirt to preach in".

Real talk. But thats prolly what happened.


heyooooooo!

You see I told ya'll to watch them cats of the Spanish Decent too .... Ya'll thought it was a Game...Yokes on you....... Vic did that tooo good.... It's in ya genes brutha

Okay I'm really done now, unless Vic da Puerto Rican Cookie posts again..

[Devin]

check ya pm seal.

[seal]

I mean, seriously... can you imagine SEAL trying to talk doctrine to Edwards back in the day on his plantation? WOW... it would sound like the 4th of July with all the cracking sound that would come preceding that attempt to dialouge! Think about THAT seal! AND Kerry... really, think about that.

Or I may have even been getting whipped trying to talk Doctrine with your great......great Grand Papi Cookito....LOL...ROFL.... You know ya'll had slaves too.... I would have been getting whooped for telling him that the Spanish KJV isn't the only version we have to read..... No Cookito, we can read the ESV too senor..... as the whipped cracked and I said my name..... seal...seal....sealtacus da reformer....LOL....

[Devin]

haha.after peeping this thread ive learned a few things.

1.Seal is sensitive
2.Seal doesnt respond to Pm's or any question by Me.unless im stroking his ego
3.im hungry and want Eph. 4:29Eph. 4:29Eph. 4:29Eph. 4:29Eph. 4:29Eph. 4:29Eph. 4:29
4.that pic Vic posted was kinda hilarious.
5.Seals response didnt have that "comic edge" i was looking for so its not comparable and i believe he couldve came with a better "come back"

[eternal]

haha.after peeping this thread ive learned a few things.

1.Seal is sensitive
2.Seal doesnt respond to Pm's or any question by Me.unless im stroking his ego
3.im hungry and want Eph. 4:29Eph. 4:29Eph. 4:29Eph. 4:29Eph. 4:29Eph. 4:29Eph. 4:29
4.that pic Vic posted was kinda hilarious.
5.Seals response didnt have that "comic edge" i was looking for so its not comparable and i believe he couldve came with a better "come back"

6. Seal is a lot nicer to Vic than he is to the rest of us. LOL. I guess its the power of the ban

[seal]

6. Seal is a lot nicer to Vic than he is to the rest of us. LOL. I guess its the power of the ban

Amen to that.... Don't act like you ain't nicer to Vic too....

[Devin]

Seal still hasnt responded to my PM.