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    Terrible terrible examples! Daniel and Joseph? Are you serious?

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    Tim Conway replies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnarok View Post
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    Seriously, video over 1hour... This is not a discussion about the trinity. Did not need such a lengthy response. Not that big of a deal
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    Quote Originally Posted by slimkid24 View Post
    Seriously, video over 1hour... This is not a discussion about the trinity. Did not need such a lengthy response. Not that big of a deal
    Then why are responding if it's not that big of deal? It is a big deal to some of us sir!

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    I responded to state my opinion. Take a chill pill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slimkid24 View Post
    I responded to state my opinion. Take a chill pill.
    Your opinion is that it is not that big of a deal, next time something isn't that big of a deal then just retreat and be quiet!

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    These forums getting more and more hilarious everyday.

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    I think Lecrae's biblical argument is weak. A stronger case could be made, but using Joseph and Daniel misses the point. Joseph wasn't doing ministry and Daniel at times went against what his culture was doing.

    its c ookies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnarok View Post
    Your opinion is that it is not that big of a deal, next time something isn't that big of a deal then just retreat and be quiet!
    Ok.. Dad
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    Sup the Chemist (S.F.C.) - Murs, Aloe Blacc
    T-bone - Mr. Grimm, Mack 10, Chino XL, KRS-One, Lil' Zane...
    Manchild/Mars iLL - Blueprint, Big Juss (Company Flow), Cappadonna (Wu-Tang Clan), Prince Po (Organized Konfusion)
    Grits - Talib Kweli, Canibus...
    Lil' Raskull - Paul Wall, Slim Thug...
    Cas Metah (Scribblin Idiots) - T-Mo Goodie (Goodie Mob)
    L.A.Symphony - Posdnous (De La Soul), Fatlip (the Pharcyde), Murs...
    Sevin - Kokane, Bad Azz...

    Just off the top of my head - Christian Hip Hop artists that have collaborated with "secular" artists - going back almost 20 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alarma View Post
    Sup the Chemist (S.F.C.) - Murs, Aloe Blacc
    T-bone - Mr. Grimm, Mack 10, Chino XL, KRS-One, Lil' Zane...
    Manchild/Mars iLL - Blueprint, Big Juss (Company Flow), Cappadonna (Wu-Tang Clan), Prince Po (Organized Konfusion)
    Grits - Talib Kweli, Canibus...
    Lil' Raskull - Paul Wall, Slim Thug...
    Cas Metah (Scribblin Idiots) - T-Mo Goodie (Goodie Mob)
    L.A.Symphony - Posdnous (De La Soul), Fatlip (the Pharcyde), Murs...
    Sevin - Kokane, Bad Azz...

    Just off the top of my head - Christian Hip Hop artists that have collaborated with "secular" artists - going back almost 20 years.
    So does that mean its right?

    I think Tim Conway is usually hit or miss with me but made some major points that I agreed with here
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    Anyone got a list of CHH artists that have collaborated with "secular" producers?

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    Team Backpack at Rock The Bells, so Lecrae is a backpack rapper now?

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    Conway's video makes me really sad tbh. That so much time was devoted to such a topic (which I thought it was labeled a bible study), when really everyone in the room could have benefited from something else.
    What is the problem with CHH artisits collaborating with secular artists? As long as they stay true to Christ, that they represent him, and that they try and be Christ like...then what is the problem?

    If a dude collabs with Lil Wayne (e.g.), then why knock it? How about we praise The Lord that someone like Lil Wayne has voluntarily put himself in a place with other Christians, were they can represent and show him a better way?
    What is the problem?

    Now if a dude goes into Lil Wayne's circle and indulges in what a dude like Wayne gets up to (like lighting up a joint, have strippers about, and swearing and abusing in songs), then yes I see the problem. But that simply is not happening.

    What CHH is doing is exactly like what I do. I help run a church footy team (soccer).
    The purpose of it is to provide a team that plays in a 'christian league' that is still as good as the other leagues, but has a noticeably difference in terms of sportsmanship, attitude and behaviour.
    It's run so that we can reach out to lads that would never enter a Church, or do anything to do with a Church.
    We build relationships with them, and some have come to Christ.

    It's outreach. There should be no problem with outreach.

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    Yo,

    Lecrae's response shows you just how weak and heretical their position is. He claims that people are taking Ephesians out of context but then refers to himself as following Ruth, Daniel, and Joseph of all people. Eisegesis galore. Where does he get the biblical justification to do such things? Are the Apostles telling us to imitate Christ or those guys?

    Again, like I said on several weeks ago, this trend in evangelism where people are using Special Revelation to justify not using Special Revelation is an Oxy moron. How can we go to Biblical Characters to justify not using the revealed Gospel? Do you think Ruth, Daniel, or Joseph would tell you to forsake the Gospel and just imitate me. COME ON!!!!

    But this movement is deeper than just this nonsense you see these cats spousing here. More on that later.

    But yo... did they edit some of Andy's Part out???


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